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Brian Payne
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Username: brian_payne

Post Number: 195
Registered: 01-2014
Posted on Thursday, October 17, 2019 - 05:15 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post

I thought I posted this earlier, but does anyone have spec language for Venetian plaster, or even what more generic language would be to help me in my search?

thanks
David E Lorenzini
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Username: deloren

Post Number: 183
Registered: 04-2000


Posted on Thursday, October 17, 2019 - 07:53 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post

Brian, send me your email address and I will send you Section 092300. [deloren (at) scip (dot) com]
David Lorenzini, FCSI, CCS
Architectural Resources Co.
Wayne Yancey
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Username: wayne_yancey

Post Number: 910
Registered: 01-2008


Posted on Friday, October 18, 2019 - 09:04 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post

Good morning Brian,

Please send e-mail to wayne.yancey@crtkl.com
Robin E. Snyder
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Username: robin

Post Number: 792
Registered: 08-2004
Posted on Friday, October 18, 2019 - 12:03 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post

Everyone's system is slightly different. I started adding the following language to my decorative plaster specs,

B. Interior plaster is considered an artistic finish system and actual components and installation instructions may vary between manufacturers. Specifications are based on common system components and installation. Alternate systems may have different requirements. Variations from specifications herein are acceptable if required to meet design intent and submitted system is approved by Architect and Interior Designer.
Greta Eckhardt
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Username: gretaeckhardt

Post Number: 112
Registered: 08-2013


Posted on Friday, October 18, 2019 - 12:39 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post

Because, as Robin mentions, "venetian plaster" is used to describe a range of decorative wall finish systems, it is best to first find out exactly what the architect or interior designer is looking at and build the specifications around that particular set of products/application procedures. It has been a few years since I wrote a specification for this, but as I recall, "venetian plaster" was traditionally a series of artistically applied gypsum or calcite plaster with pigments, but currently available finish system may include layers of fluid-applied synthetic materials, etc. Venetian plaster can be considered site-applied artwork, and it may need to be a proprietary specification.
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Posted on Friday, October 18, 2019 - 02:52 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post

I tend to agree with others that note that "venetian plaster" will most likely vary based on what the architect or designer is looking for. In the past I've specified what the designers were calling "venetian plaster" as cement veneer plaster, acrylic-modified cement plaster, gypsum veneer plaster, hydrated lime- (slaked lime-) based plaster, and an artistically applied paint system to gypsum board with a level 5 finish.

I would recommend getting clarification of what the architect or designer means when they say "venetian plaster." If you're unlucky they'll give you a photograph. If you're lucky they'll give you a product.

Also, require a mock-up.
Ed Storer
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Username: ed_storer

Post Number: 44
Registered: 05-2009
Posted on Saturday, October 19, 2019 - 12:01 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post

This is another one of those interior design product selections, that I try not to mess with. The designer spent hours making that selection, so I will specify it as a straight "this product" spec with substitutions permitted - with mock-up or large sample required with the substitution request.

I will not do "basis of design" as I'm not in a position to say which manufacturers or systems will suit the designer's vision. If the designer is not happy with the result - It's Not My Problem.

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