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Robin E. Snyder
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Username: robin

Post Number: 774
Registered: 08-2004
Posted on Wednesday, July 10, 2019 - 11:21 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post

I have been referencing this withdrawn ASTM in my metal railing spec. Yikes. Anyone know if there is a comparable ASTM i should be referencing?
Brian Payne
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Username: brian_payne

Post Number: 187
Registered: 01-2014
Posted on Wednesday, July 10, 2019 - 11:44 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post

ASTM E935 Standard Test Methods for Performance of Permanent Metal Railing Systems and Rails for Buildings; 2013, with Editorial Revision.

and I found this...
http://discus.4specs.com/discus/messages/23/8582.html?1510880846
Wayne Yancey
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Username: wayne_yancey

Post Number: 900
Registered: 01-2008


Posted on Wednesday, July 10, 2019 - 11:48 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post

General and detailed information about pipe and tube railings is covered in NAAMM AMP 521, Pipe Railing Systems Manual, which contains information on typical pipe and tube railing construction, as well as photographs and drawings. NAAMM AMP 521 also contains structural design information for pipe and tube railings.
Marc Chavez
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Username: mchavez

Post Number: 495
Registered: 07-2002


Posted on Wednesday, July 10, 2019 - 11:54 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post

for design I reference IBC 1607.8 which references 4.5.1 of ASCE 7 and then the loads are stated. what is wrong with stating that. as for testing, that is not in the ASTM that i can see. so perhaps as ASCE and IBC have it covered ASTM said why bother?
David G. Axt, CCS, CSI ,SCIP
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Username: david_axt

Post Number: 1807
Registered: 03-2002


Posted on Wednesday, July 10, 2019 - 01:57 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post

I have often wondered why a deflection criteria is not specified for hand/guardrails. As it stands now the rails could be quite wobbly but could be allowed by code so long as they resisted the required loads.
David G. Axt, CCS, CSI, SCIP
Specifications Consultant
Axt Consulting LLC
Ron Beard
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Username: rm_beard_ccs

Post Number: 461
Registered: 10-2002


Posted on Wednesday, July 10, 2019 - 06:34 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post

While not specifically germane to the standards in question, I also like to review welded joint finishing of metal railings occasionally for projects where appearance is of concern.

The National Ornamental & Miscellaneous Metals Association (NOMMA) has a downloadable, illustrated “Joint Finishes Guide” at www.nomma.org/page/architects. There is also a “Finishes Manual” at the same site.
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