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Author Message David G. Axt, CCS, CSI ,SCIP Senior Member Username: david_axt Post Number: 1758 Registered: 03-2002 Posted on Tuesday, February 26, 2019 - 12:51 pm:    On many of my projects I will have a few pesky miscellaneous items that do not neatly fit into a specific section. These items have included: knox boxes, swivel eye hooks, canopy louvers, safes, bird spikes/netting, etc. The items are usually in such small quantities (typically one) that it does not make sense to write an individual section. So I usually put them in a section I created called Section 109990 - Miscellaneous Specialties and Equipment. What do you do? David G. Axt, CCS, CSI, SCIP Specifications Consultant Axt Consulting LLC Michael Chusid, RA FCSI CCS Senior Member Username: michael_chusid Post Number: 462 Registered: 10-2003 Posted on Tuesday, February 26, 2019 - 01:13 pm:    10 80 00 - Other Specialties will also work. Michael Chusid, RA FCSI CCS 1-818-219-4937 www.chusid.com www.buildingproduct.guru Lynn Javoroski FCSI CCS LEEDŽ AP SCIP Affiliate Senior Member Username: lynn_javoroski Post Number: 2183 Registered: 07-2002 Posted on Tuesday, February 26, 2019 - 01:38 pm:    I put the Knox Box in with hardware, but other "stuff" went into 109990 (or some such similar numbered section) Liz O'Sullivan Senior Member Username: liz_osullivan Post Number: 246 Registered: 10-2011 Posted on Tuesday, February 26, 2019 - 01:45 pm:    I like narrow scope sections (Section 10 41 16 Emergency Key Cabinets, Section 10 81 13 Bird Control Devices, etc.). I like them for 2 reasons. First, the name of the pesky little thing shows up in the Project Manual table of contents, and might therefore be easier to find for the person who needs to furnish it. The other reason is that when I need this section that I've created from scratch for another project, I can more easily find it and use it as a good starting point. (I am better at searching my files than organizing my files.) Lisa Goodwin Robbins, RA, CCS, LEED ap Senior Member Username: lgoodrob Post Number: 358 Registered: 08-2004 Posted on Tuesday, February 26, 2019 - 02:07 pm:    I'm with Liz on this one. It also stands out on the table of contents for our Architects who don't like to read. It's much easier for me to search our office server for garment conveyors when it's in the section title. When we do get the eleventh hour request for a bunch of random things, we create a section like David mentioned, at the end of Div 10, 11, or 12, whatever makes the most sense in the 3 minutes I have to complete. BTW, I've recently added a new Section 104313 Automatic External Defibrillator (AED) Cabinets. I'm adding it to every project with a public lobby, until someone tells me to remove it. - Steven Bruneel, AIA, CSI-CDT, LEED-AP, EDAC Senior Member Username: redseca2 Post Number: 664 Registered: 12-2006 Posted on Tuesday, February 26, 2019 - 02:59 pm:    I am with Liz and Lisa. Fortunately I have been here long enough that I have my own masters for Knox boxes, Bird Control, etc. We even have one for defibrillators. Jeffrey Wilson CSI CCS SCIP Senior Member Username: wilsonconsulting Post Number: 273 Registered: 03-2006 Posted on Tuesday, February 26, 2019 - 04:24 pm:    Me too. I have over the years created short spec sections for most of these incidental items that show up occasionally on projects, if there isn't a logical location in another section. In addition to making these more readily located by all team members, they're easier to reuse for new projects once the master is created. Jeffrey Wilson CCS CSI SCIP Wilson Consulting Inc Ardmore PA Sheldon Wolfe Senior Member Username: sheldon_wolfe Post Number: 1026 Registered: 01-2003 Posted on Sunday, March 03, 2019 - 09:48 pm:    I use a grab-bag section in 10, 11, 12, or whatever makes sense as Lisa suggests. Most of these are things that should be purchased by the owner, e.g., exam room flags. I like Liz's approach, but the nature of these things pretty much means they can all be together, as they're exactly what the owner wants (I'm not about to waste time on prior approvals or substitutions), and installation often amounts to "hang it on the wall." David J. Wyatt, CDT Senior Member Username: david_j_wyatt_cdt Post Number: 293 Registered: 03-2011 Posted on Monday, March 04, 2019 - 07:45 am:    I remember Bob Johnson referring to Division 10 as "the back hall closet".