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Marc Chavez
Senior Member
Username: mchavez
Post Number: 483
Registered: 07-2002
| | Posted on Friday, November 02, 2018 - 03:51 pm: |    |
anyone spec'ed these. is it "just" another piece of equipment ...provide equipment, install per manufacturer's rec. coord with EE? or is there a trick to them? |
Richard Gonser AIA CSI CCCA SCIP
Senior Member
Username: rich_gonser
Post Number: 149
Registered: 11-2008
| | Posted on Friday, November 02, 2018 - 05:47 pm: | |
There are a few options to choose from within the models.
I've been Spec'ing Schneider units.
I can send you my section as a starting point. |
Michael Chusid, RA FCSI CCS
Senior Member
Username: michael_chusid
Post Number: 439
Registered: 10-2003
| | Posted on Friday, November 02, 2018 - 05:57 pm: | |
Make sure you specify them with removable anchors so they are easy to remove when the automobile industry's standards for charging stations change -- again.
Michael Chusid, RA FCSI CCS 1-818-219-4937
www.chusid.com www.buildingproduct.guru |
Marc Chavez
Senior Member
Username: mchavez
Post Number: 484
Registered: 07-2002
| | Posted on Friday, November 02, 2018 - 06:17 pm: | |
Richard, yes please marc.chavez@perkinswill.com and I agree Michael, that industry is FAR from mature |
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| | Posted on Friday, November 02, 2018 - 07:07 pm: | |
Current MasterFormat would put this at 11 1136 - Vehicle Charging Equipment. Where did 11 1240 come from? |
Marc Chavez
Senior Member
Username: mchavez
Post Number: 485
Registered: 07-2002
| | Posted on Friday, November 02, 2018 - 07:23 pm: | |
some little web site called 4specs.com |
Steven Bruneel, AIA, CSI-CDT, LEED-AP, EDAC
Senior Member
Username: redseca2
Post Number: 662
Registered: 12-2006
| | Posted on Saturday, November 03, 2018 - 02:51 pm: | |
On a related note, a friend (architect) is on the HOA committee at her San Francisco condominium. They are in the planning stages of adding electrical charging to the parking garage spaces for the tenants. The local electrical utility (PG&E) requires that parking spaces with charging stations be a minimum 8.5-feet wide. The existing spaces are 8-feet wide. Re-striping would eliminate parking spaces, so the project is on hold.
The building is about 15 years old and I assume met all of the required planning and building codes for parking spaces at the time. I am not sure what the basis of the 8.5-foot requirement on the part of the utility is. |
Ronald J. Ray, RA, CCS, CCCA, CSI, SCIP, AIA
Senior Member
Username: rjray
Post Number: 187
Registered: 04-2004
| | Posted on Saturday, November 03, 2018 - 03:37 pm: | |
Marc, MasterSpec has Sections 262743 and 262746, which maybe what you are seeking. |
James Sandoz, AIA, CSI, CCS, CCCA
Senior Member
Username: jsandoz
Post Number: 247
Registered: 06-2005
| | Posted on Monday, November 05, 2018 - 08:51 am: | |
Steven, this is just speculation but since the charging ports on most vehicles are on the side of the car I suppose the extra six inches allows for clearance to side-step by the connected power cord and make it less likely that the connector is damaged. |
Brian Payne
Senior Member
Username: brian_payne
Post Number: 167
Registered: 01-2014
| | Posted on Monday, November 05, 2018 - 09:48 am: | |
Found this. They are recommending 9' min width.
http://www.ct.gov/deep/lib/deep/air/electric_vehicle/ev_siting_and_design_guidelines.pdf |
Lisa Goodwin Robbins, RA, CCS, LEED ap
Senior Member
Username: lgoodrob
Post Number: 355
Registered: 08-2004
| | Posted on Monday, November 05, 2018 - 10:10 am: | |
We've been specifying these frequently. Vehicle charging stations are now standard equipment for new podium style apartment and condominiums.
I don't see Architects taking full control on these yet. It's mostly a developer- or owner-driven selection, during construction. As a result, our specification is short and sweet, focusing on full shop drawings, safety requirements, and connection to building electrical systems.
Marc is right, the industry is far from mature. I learned about another new charging station start-up in the Boston/Cambridge area, just last month.
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