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Helaine K Robinson CSI CCS CCCA SCIP
New member
Username: hollyrob19
Post Number: 1
Registered: 05-2018
| | Posted on Thursday, May 24, 2018 - 11:09 am: |    |
My intrepid project architect has got me specifying IKEA! How do I do that? Any suggestions? |
Brian Payne, AIA
Senior Member
Username: brian_payne
Post Number: 145
Registered: 01-2014
| | Posted on Thursday, May 24, 2018 - 11:31 am: | |
12 3200 - Manufactured Wood Casework is where I would start.
On a side note...IKEA does NOT to my knowledge make base cabinets that will allow for a 34" high ADA countertop without a decent amount of IKEA hacking. You are fine for single family residential, but multifamily and definitely commercial causes issues. |
David G. Axt, CCS, CSI ,SCIP
Senior Member
Username: david_axt
Post Number: 1667
Registered: 03-2002
| | Posted on Thursday, May 24, 2018 - 01:15 pm: | |
Helaine,
Is this FF&E furniture?
David G. Axt, CCS, CSI, SCIP
Specifications Consultant
Axt Consulting LLC |
Helaine K Robinson CSI CCS CCCA SCIP
Junior Member
Username: hollyrob19
Post Number: 2
Registered: 05-2018
| | Posted on Thursday, May 24, 2018 - 01:44 pm: | |
David, no. I wish it were. |
Michael Chusid, RA FCSI CCS
Senior Member
Username: michael_chusid
Post Number: 395
Registered: 10-2003
| | Posted on Thursday, May 24, 2018 - 03:30 pm: | |
What's the problem? Just specify Ikea product number and say assemble and install to mfr. instructions. Don't bother with materials, quality assurance, or anything else.
Michael Chusid, RA FCSI CCS 1-818-219-4937
www.chusid.com www.buildingproduct.guru |
Chris Grimm, CSI, CCS, SCIP, LEED AP BD+C
Senior Member
Username: chris_grimm_ccs_scip
Post Number: 405
Registered: 02-2014
| | Posted on Thursday, May 24, 2018 - 10:17 pm: | |
Did they give you a specific product, or did they try that thing designers too often do, "basis of design” manufacturer but no product? (which is not a BoD of course). If there is at least a product, I would do like Michael suggests, as long as what they really want is a proprietary spec. But if they want it open I would ask what they like about it and name a few attributes unless they are not giving you enough time to do that. |
J. Peter Jordan
Senior Member
Username: jpjordan
Post Number: 1041
Registered: 05-2004
| | Posted on Friday, May 25, 2018 - 10:38 am: | |
The accessibility issue may or may not be a problem depending on the building occupancy. Here in Texas, an accessibility consultant will review the Drawings for compliance with the Texas Accessibility Standards and then inspect it after it is built. If it doesn't pass, it may not get a permit or a Certificate of Occupancy.
J. Peter Jordan, FCSI, AIA, CCS, LEED AP, SCIP
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Robert Swan, FCSI, SCIP
Junior Member
Username: robeswan
Post Number: 2
Registered: 12-2016
| | Posted on Tuesday, May 29, 2018 - 12:07 pm: | |
Peter:
So the bottom line is you are trying to save the designers from themselves. Suggest to the designers that an additional height at the toe boards are required for the ADA units and let them decide to foul up themselves or accept some advice. |
J. Peter Jordan
Senior Member
Username: jpjordan
Post Number: 1042
Registered: 05-2004
| | Posted on Wednesday, May 30, 2018 - 08:42 am: | |
Robert's suggestion about modifying the toe space is worth looking at.
I guess I view one of my services is saving the my clients from themselves. It is sometimes impossible to save them from the Owner. Some of them listen when I talk about the responsibility attached to stamping the Drawings while others just roll their eyes and say they have to serve the Owner.
At the end of the day, unless it is a code issue (which this could be), we follow the golden rule--he (or she) who has the gold makes the rules.
J. Peter Jordan, FCSI, AIA, CCS, LEED AP, SCIP
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