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Wayne Yancey
Senior Member
Username: wayne_yancey
Post Number: 851
Registered: 01-2008
| | Posted on Monday, January 22, 2018 - 11:19 am: |    |
Where can I find wording that states I do not have a duty to review submittals for products specified by a separate entity, such as an interior design firm.
Should I treat such submittals as informational submittals which the Architect is not expected to take responsive action as so identified in the Contract Documents?
I need some "thanks but no thanks" language in my response.
Thanks,
Wayne |
Nathan Woods, CSI, CCCA, LEED AP
Senior Member
Username: nwoods
Post Number: 732
Registered: 08-2005
| | Posted on Monday, January 22, 2018 - 11:27 am: | |
I don't have an answer to your question, but I do have a caution for you. In your contract there is most certainly a duty to coordinate with the interior design firm. Has that coordination already occurred? Are you already familiar with everything they have specified, and are they compatible with your scope of work? If so, then the only thing you may be required to review would be substitutions, and potentially, as a compensable review. |
Robin E. Snyder
Senior Member
Username: robin
Post Number: 714
Registered: 08-2004
| | Posted on Monday, January 22, 2018 - 11:56 am: | |
It really depends on the language in the underlying contracts. The architect-owner and consultant-architect agreements. |
Steven Bruneel, AIA, CSI-CDT, LEED-AP, EDAC
Senior Member
Username: redseca2
Post Number: 627
Registered: 12-2006
| | Posted on Monday, January 22, 2018 - 11:59 am: | |
I agree with Robin. You may find, as I have at times, that there is no contract provision for the separate interior design firm to carry on into CA responsibilities. |
Wayne Yancey
Senior Member
Username: wayne_yancey
Post Number: 852
Registered: 01-2008
| | Posted on Monday, January 22, 2018 - 12:03 pm: | |
ID does not work for the Architect. ID was just a convenient example. |
anon (Unregistered Guest)
Unregistered guest
| | Posted on Monday, January 22, 2018 - 01:03 pm: | |
why is it necessary for you to do anything with submittals that have nothing to do with your contractual scope?
If you take a look at AIA B101, under Article 4 Supplemental and Additional Services, you will find the following:
4.1.1.20 Architect's Coordination of the Owner's consultants.
That would be an additional service, if Architect takes it on, and Owner agrees to pay for it.
You could also add specific language under this Article for review of Owner's consultant submittals. |
Wayne Yancey
Senior Member
Username: wayne_yancey
Post Number: 853
Registered: 01-2008
| | Posted on Monday, January 22, 2018 - 01:50 pm: | |
Anon,
Exactly. Thanks for the tip to B101.
My reply used the strategy that the submittal is informational per (A201) and Div 01 therefore does not require a review.
Legal states do not review, return them noting they have not been reviewed as the products were not specified by WXYZ and, in any event, direct submission to WXYZ is improper.
I think I am covered. Thanks to those who replied promptly.
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Wayne |
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