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Phil Babinec
Senior Member
Username: pbabinec

Post Number: 20
Registered: 09-2004
Posted on Wednesday, August 16, 2017 - 01:24 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post

Any thoughts on preparing a specification for a prefabricated toilet room? Healthcare setting.
Jeffrey Wilson CSI CCS SCIP
Senior Member
Username: wilsonconsulting

Post Number: 223
Registered: 03-2006


Posted on Wednesday, August 16, 2017 - 02:11 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post

Phil, if you're referring to off-site fabricated modular toilet room assemblies, I developed a Division 13 office master I'd be happy to share.

My spec addresses the assembly of multiple components that are spec'd in other sections, along with provisions for protection, transit, storage & erection of modular units. It also allocates the division of work between factory & project site.

Jeff at WilsonConsultingInc dot com
Jeffrey Wilson CCS CSI SCIP
Wilson Consulting Inc
Ardmore PA
Greta Eckhardt
Senior Member
Username: gretaeckhardt

Post Number: 66
Registered: 08-2013


Posted on Wednesday, August 16, 2017 - 02:39 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post

When I learned of these prefabricated toilet rooms a few years ago, I submitted a proposal to MasterFormat for a new number/title for Section 134213 - Bathroom Unit Modules, and it was accepted. Alas, I have not yet had the chance to write such a section. I imagine the specifications would be similar to those for a shower enclosure, but with electrical connections added, or perhaps to a controlled environment room if the prefabricated unit is a modular installation.
James Sandoz, AIA, CSI, CCS, CCCA
Senior Member
Username: jsandoz

Post Number: 217
Registered: 06-2005


Posted on Thursday, August 17, 2017 - 09:26 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post

Jeffrey, I would like to see that specification also, especially since it addresses components specified in other sections. That seems to be the way some contractors are approaching pre-fabricated toilet rooms.
My e-mail is jsandoz@fkp.com
Jerome J. Lazar, RA, CCS, CSI, NCARB
Senior Member
Username: lazarcitec

Post Number: 1782
Registered: 05-2003
Posted on Thursday, August 17, 2017 - 09:34 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post

APPLAUSE for Jeffrey Wilson.
He is an example of one of the benefits of this forum, a fellow specifier willing to help another specifier. I wish this was true in the real world, when I reach out to a fellow specifier in So Florida (if I can find one), I get nada. Jeffrey should get a round of applause from this forum, he is a gentleman and a scholar, as my late father would say. I have benefited from Jeffrey's kindness in the past, his specs are well done, great guides.
Jeffrey Wilson CSI CCS SCIP
Senior Member
Username: wilsonconsulting

Post Number: 224
Registered: 03-2006


Posted on Thursday, August 17, 2017 - 10:07 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post

Thank you, Jerome -- you are a gentleman as well.

This forum has been tremendously helpful for me also, so kudos to Colin for creating and hosting, and many thanks to all participants.
Jeffrey Wilson CCS CSI SCIP
Wilson Consulting Inc
Ardmore PA
Jerome J. Lazar, RA, CCS, CSI, NCARB
Senior Member
Username: lazarcitec

Post Number: 1783
Registered: 05-2003
Posted on Thursday, August 17, 2017 - 10:15 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post

Thanks Jeffrey, I've been called a lot worse (mostly by Contractors). Yes indeed, thank you Colin for your efforts, 4specs.com is the best!
Now that we are finished patting ourselves on the back, time to get back to writing specs.
James Sandoz, AIA, CSI, CCS, CCCA
Senior Member
Username: jsandoz

Post Number: 218
Registered: 06-2005


Posted on Friday, August 18, 2017 - 09:34 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post

Hear, hear! Thank you Jeffrey and everyone else on this forum who has helped make my work easier and BETTER. And tusen takk* to Colin for maintaining this web site.

*"many thousand thanks" in Norwegian

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