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Robert Timber AIA, CSI, CDT
Member
Username: robert0216
Post Number: 3
Registered: 07-2016
| | Posted on Thursday, March 16, 2017 - 10:43 am: |    |
I'm attempting to edit our office master specification for FRP Doors and Aluminum Frames. Our spec is based off of the spec available from Special-Lite. It seems extremely detailed. I assume it's this way to limit products to only Special-Lite. I usually begin with Arcom/MasterSpec as a template but they do not appear to have a section for FRP doors. Any suggestions on where to start, or other specs available for reference other than Special-Lite? |
Brian Payne, AIA
Senior Member
Username: brian_payne
Post Number: 79
Registered: 01-2014
| | Posted on Thursday, March 16, 2017 - 10:54 am: | |
BSD has a FRP Door Section that includes aluminum frames. The entire draft spec is only 8 pages, which is probably only 2-3 with normal selections. |
Jeffrey Wilson CSI CCS SCIP
Senior Member
Username: wilsonconsulting
Post Number: 206
Registered: 03-2006
| | Posted on Thursday, March 16, 2017 - 12:02 pm: | |
I have an office master I'd be willing to share, although it does not include aluminum frames. Hollow metal frames are included as an option, so it should be easy to import provisions for alum.
Jeff at WilsonConsultingInc dot com.
Jeffrey Wilson CCS CSI SCIP
Wilson Consulting Inc
Ardmore PA |
J. Peter Jordan
Senior Member
Username: jpjordan
Post Number: 951
Registered: 05-2004
| | Posted on Thursday, March 16, 2017 - 03:44 pm: | |
I use FRP doors and frames on several of my projects. These are all FRP with FRP frames and are available for fire-rated as well as non-fire-rated openings. I like Chem-Pruf, but my office master includes Corrim Company as well. These are much more appropriate where there are conditions that would corrode aluminum as well as steel. Incidentally, some of the aluminum storefront people offer doors with FRP plates on the faces.
J. Peter Jordan, FCSI, AIA, CCS, LEED AP, SCIP
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Chris Grimm, CSI, CCS, SCIP, LEED AP BD+C
Senior Member
Username: chris_grimm_ccs_scip
Post Number: 371
Registered: 02-2014
| | Posted on Friday, March 17, 2017 - 10:35 am: | |
I've been told that pultruded fiberglass frames are superior because they do not have any corrosion problems that aluminum may have in some environments. Not sure how to compare the stability of pultruded vs. aluminum but I do know it can even be used for structural members.
I suspect that a certain FRP door mfr who offers only aluminum frames has managed to get school districts to require their type even though others may be better. Sounds like it could be a case of when your only tool is a hammer, every problem is a nail. |
Robert Timber AIA, CSI, CDT
Intermediate Member
Username: robert0216
Post Number: 4
Registered: 07-2016
| | Posted on Friday, March 17, 2017 - 10:56 am: | |
The vast majority of my company's work is in K-12 schools and some higher education. FRP doors from Special-Lite, Curries, etc. are routinely specified because they take a lot of abuse. The Special-Lite spec I have appears to be written in a way to disqualify all or most of their competitors. The advice here is helpful as usual. Thanks. I was also able to track down a spec from Curries which is also helping. |
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