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Author Message Chris Grimm, CSI, CCS, SCIP, LEED AP BD+C Senior Member Username: chris_grimm_ccs_scip Post Number: 357 Registered: 02-2014 Posted on Wednesday, January 11, 2017 - 01:01 pm:    Just curious if anyone else is seeing an uptick in designer responses & input where they clearly have not even looked at the specs they are writing comments about, like -asking for things that are already specified, -giving lots of late input when they finally do get around to answering a few of the questions that were sent, regardless of whether it was with assumptions to make it easy on them, or not, in order to push the issue with a few items, -and sending regurgitated input from contractors that they didn't even look at or understand nor agree with once it is explained to them. Not new problems by any means, but it seems like more of it in the past few months than in the last 10 years(??) Wayne Yancey Senior Member Username: wayne_yancey Post Number: 797 Registered: 01-2008 Posted on Wednesday, January 11, 2017 - 01:07 pm:    Chris, Happening all the time. With unerring regularity. Nathan Woods, CSI, CCCA, LEED AP Senior Member Username: nwoods Post Number: 701 Registered: 08-2005 Posted on Wednesday, January 11, 2017 - 01:23 pm:    Do you mean, "Are you seeing a decrease in production schedules given to design teams on the myth that BIM saves design team, resulting in the designers inability to focus on the specs in a timely or thorough fashion"?? If that was your question, then the answer is a resounding YES. If you are just bitching about your clients, then I would say NO. Sheldon Wolfe Senior Member Username: sheldon_wolfe Post Number: 944 Registered: 01-2003 Posted on Wednesday, January 11, 2017 - 02:06 pm:    SNAFU. I haven't noticed an increase, but when you're standing at the bottom of a mountain, it's hard to tell if it's getting taller or shorter. ken hercenberg Senior Member Username: khercenberg Post Number: 1025 Registered: 12-2006 Posted on Wednesday, January 11, 2017 - 03:15 pm:    Yep. It does tend to flow downhill and we're often in the basement with a bucket. I am often wonderfully amazed when I get to work with architects who are receptive, interactive and communicative. I work hard to work with them as often as possible and make sure that they know that I want to repeat as their Specifier and technical resource. Unfortunately there are many who see me as a necessary evil at best or as a useless appendage that they can't amputate (and no, that's not the worst). Sorry you seem to be dealing with the latter group. Perhaps you can see if there is one person in the group who is receptive to you as the resource person that you are. It's amazing how that can turn around an entire studio over time. Chris Grimm, CSI, CCS, SCIP, LEED AP BD+C Senior Member Username: chris_grimm_ccs_scip Post Number: 358 Registered: 02-2014 Posted on Wednesday, January 11, 2017 - 03:16 pm:    taller Chris Grimm, CSI, CCS, SCIP, LEED AP BD+C Senior Member Username: chris_grimm_ccs_scip Post Number: 359 Registered: 02-2014 Posted on Wednesday, January 11, 2017 - 03:17 pm:    love the concept ken! Chris Grimm, CSI, CCS, SCIP, LEED AP BD+C Senior Member Username: chris_grimm_ccs_scip Post Number: 360 Registered: 02-2014 Posted on Wednesday, January 11, 2017 - 03:19 pm:    my job seems to be managing lists of things they haven't done. heyyyyy, isn't that the PM's & their job tho?? Nathan Woods, CSI, CCCA, LEED AP Senior Member Username: nwoods Post Number: 702 Registered: 08-2005 Posted on Wednesday, January 11, 2017 - 03:27 pm:    Chris, couldn't you look at that role or task as a service? doesn't your support in such a fashion add value and increase client satisfaction? Maybe instead of moaning about all the things your too-busy architectural client isn't doing, you can refocus your energy on all the ways you can help that same too-busy architect. Perhaps you would both profit from the results. Chris Grimm, CSI, CCS, SCIP, LEED AP BD+C Senior Member Username: chris_grimm_ccs_scip Post Number: 361 Registered: 02-2014 Posted on Wednesday, January 11, 2017 - 03:38 pm:    I was trying to take a pulse on whether this sort of thing is on the increase. Not guilty of wanting a bitch session and I am not moaning. Yes I continually focus on adding value and helping my clients. anon (Unregistered Guest) Unregistered guest Posted on Wednesday, January 11, 2017 - 04:48 pm:    Geez, Nathan. Take a chill pill. Take that cranky old man attitude somewhere else. No one needs that. Guest (Unregistered Guest) Unregistered guest Posted on Wednesday, January 11, 2017 - 06:49 pm:    Chris - SOS. You do the best/most you can...within the budget/time you've alloted. If it's your own budget/time, then you have the luxury of working for minimum (or less) wages. If you're in corporate salary environment, then you're "contributing" a lot of unpaid overtime to do someone else's job too (or pick-up their slack), in order to stay within project's budget. Chris Grimm, CSI, CCS, SCIP, LEED AP BD+C Senior Member Username: chris_grimm_ccs_scip Post Number: 362 Registered: 02-2014 Posted on Wednesday, January 11, 2017 - 08:07 pm:    For added value I use a couple of tracking tools and help the designers by listing discussions and flagging the pending topics. I wish they could get excited about it and use it earlier -- wishful thinking I guess. At least my peeve list is way shorter than Ellis's today! Thanks to all of you for helping me keep it in perspective :-D Trevor Senior Member Username: trevorpan Post Number: 29 Registered: 04-2014 Posted on Wednesday, March 08, 2017 - 10:00 am:    Chris, What tracking tools? Trevor Pan http://www.trevorpan.com