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Tracy Van Niel, FCSI, CCS
Senior Member
Username: tracy_van_niel
Post Number: 345
Registered: 04-2002
| | Posted on Wednesday, August 31, 2016 - 03:37 pm: |    |
Hi Everyone,
If your office has specified an exterior 'living wall' of trays and plants in a grid ... what section did you use? Something in Division 10 or Division 32?
Thank you!
Tracy L. Van Niel, FCSI, CCS |
Jerome J. Lazar, RA, CCS, CSI, NCARB
Senior Member
Username: lazarcitec
Post Number: 1698
Registered: 05-2003
| | Posted on Wednesday, August 31, 2016 - 05:19 pm: | |
Tracy, for Green Screen type products, I use Div 10. |
ken hercenberg
Senior Member
Username: khercenberg
Post Number: 1012
Registered: 12-2006
| | Posted on Thursday, September 01, 2016 - 09:58 am: | |
Metalwerks - http://metalwerksusa.com/ - has developed a new planted wall that is part of their exterior wall systems so it would go in Division 07. It's not on their website yet but you can get information by calling them. Looks like a very cool way to go. |
Curt Norton, CSI, CCS
Senior Member
Username: curtn
Post Number: 242
Registered: 06-2002
| | Posted on Thursday, September 01, 2016 - 10:26 am: | |
I have done two interior living wall project recently - 10 22 53 Living Wall Partition |
Dave Metzger
Senior Member
Username: davemetzger
Post Number: 657
Registered: 07-2001
| | Posted on Thursday, September 01, 2016 - 11:44 am: | |
Looks like I'm the contrarian here. When I've specified exterior "living walls" (and it's been several years), it was in Division 05, because of the stainless steel grid. The 2016 edition of MasterFormat, for 32 95 00 Exterior Planting Support Structures, states "Includes: trellis, treillage, green wall, arbor, and climbing support netting."
MasterFormat lists interior "living walls" as 09 77 53 Vegetated Wall Systems, as a child of 09 77 00 Special Wall Surfacing. The rationale is that these systems are not partitions per se, but are applied to a substrate. |
Brian E. Trimble, CDT
Senior Member
Username: brian_e_trimble_cdt
Post Number: 84
Registered: 08-2005
| | Posted on Thursday, September 15, 2016 - 04:07 pm: | |
PNC here in Pittsburgh is removing their living wall: http://www.post-gazette.com/local/city/2016/08/23/PNC-s-green-wall-being-dismantled/stories/201608230085 and replacing it with granite. The explanation isn't real clear as to why they are doing it. “Given the fact that the primary purpose no longer is being fulfilled, we just made the decision to take it down,” she said. |
anon (Unregistered Guest)
Unregistered guest
| | Posted on Thursday, September 15, 2016 - 04:33 pm: | |
LEED point earned, plaque on wall, can now remove the living wall, waterless urinals, electric charging outlets in parking garage, etc. None of it worked anyway, no greener than doing nothing or the same as usual... |
William C. Pegues, FCSI, CCS
Senior Member
Username: wpegues
Post Number: 947
Registered: 10-2002
| | Posted on Friday, September 16, 2016 - 12:48 am: | |
Living walls are very difficult, and most have miserable failures. And most of them come through problems of the irrigation system itself. Someone forgets to winterize it, and it bursts. Or, someone winterizes it but then it gets warm, plants want water but have none, they die in short order.
For those that want to see the best of how its done, then contact Oscar Warmerdam of Moreings SemperGreen. They have locations in Culpepper, VA and Seattle, WA. They provide the plant and soil product for projects all over north america.
http://www.moeringsusa.com
Their exterior living wall system addresses both problems for living walls. And they do a monitoring service for the walls as well.
For roofs, they will work with the major roofing membrane manufacturers for single source warranty through the membrane manufacturer. I used them first in about 2010 when the roof for the new US Coast Guard Headquarters in DC was going up. At the time of completion, it was the second largest vegetated roofing system in the US, and Henry's largest vegetated roof system. It went in with 100% growing coverage on day 1.
Living walls of course is totally different. Their most interesting product is Flexipanel which is not a wire or grid system. And which is installed with about 90% coverage of vegetation.
https://www.sempergreen.com/us/products/flexipanel
And if you want to see what a vegetated roof can look like when it becomes art and sculpture, then check this, also by Moerings SemperGreen at the Saint Louis Contemporary Art Museum.
http://camstl.org/calendar/event/2015/07/19/going-green-green-roofs/
William C. Pegues, FCSI, CCS, SCIP Affiliate
WDG Architecture, Washington, DC | Dallas, TX |
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