Cross Referencing Specs to the Drawings

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Author Message Jerome J. Lazar, RA, CCS, CSI, SCIP Senior Member Username: lazarcitec Post Number: 1511 Registered: 05-2003 Posted on Wednesday, November 04, 2015 - 11:51 am:    Peer review comments from a Construction firm (not the Contractor of Record) came back on one of my projects, a multi-use residential, hospitality, and commercial project consisting of two towers on a pedestal in Miami. The Comment: "AE to provided updated specs cross referenced to the drawings to ensure no conflicts." No explanation given as to how the specs should be cross referenced. Any of my real peers have any suggestions? Dave Metzger Senior Member Username: davemetzger Post Number: 612 Registered: 07-2001 Posted on Wednesday, November 04, 2015 - 12:41 pm:    Jerome, Could they be referring to keynoting? I've found that keynotes are a good way to cross-reference drawings and specifications. If instead they mean the specifications should include references to specific drawings/details, that's a terrible idea. Jerome J. Lazar, RA, CCS, CSI, SCIP Senior Member Username: lazarcitec Post Number: 1512 Registered: 05-2003 Posted on Wednesday, November 04, 2015 - 12:54 pm:    David keynoting is not being used on the drawings. I agree its a ridiculous comment, but I need to ask my peers before I accuse the Peer Reviewer of being an idiot. My thoughts were that the Peer Reviewer being a GC was looking after his own, and looking to have me do his work for him. This Peer reviewer has expresses a desire on other projects that the specs should be omitted from the drawings. ken hercenberg Senior Member Username: khercenberg Post Number: 960 Registered: 12-2006 Posted on Wednesday, November 04, 2015 - 01:26 pm:    I would focus on getting the terms used on the Drawings and in the Specs to be the same and let it go at that. You know the drill, gypsum board vs. drywall. That seems to be the current reasonable level of effort for the industry. Unless you're contracted for more than that I would say that your reviewer is overstepping authority. RH (Hank) Sweers II RA CSI CCS Senior Member Username: rhsweers2 Post Number: 15 Registered: 08-2005 Posted on Wednesday, November 11, 2015 - 08:19 am:    I'd be willing to bet this issue is related to my prior post about "Spec Section Numbers within Drawing Notes" from a few weeks ago. I lost the battle, since I found that my Architect Project Managers LIKE to have the spec sections next to the object described, such as "5/8 INCH GYPSUM BOARD (09 21 16)". Apparently, some of them wouldn't know to even look in Division-09 unless it was in the note (we are not using keynote numbers - just text). You can't just say it's "FACE BRICK" or "BRICK VENEER" anymore it seems. But we've also raised an expectation with Contractors as well - making it seem the drawings are not complete now without those Section references. The other guys do it - so why don't you? They would probably like us to show quantities as well on the Drawings since the "model" knows . . . The contractors won't object to that! I'm in the process of crafting the standard notes - at least then the reference will be to the Section numbers I used . . . But I still believe it to unnecessary (not Concise!). ken hercenberg Senior Member Username: khercenberg Post Number: 963 Registered: 12-2006 Posted on Wednesday, November 11, 2015 - 03:36 pm:    Hank, I consider keynoting to be much more concise than three lines of drawing notes describing a single item. When properly coordinated between drawings and specs, they are also correct and clear.