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Konrad Hee
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Post Number: 12
Registered: 04-2006
Posted on Friday, October 16, 2015 - 10:55 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post

Technically, are Division 01 General Requirements "technical specifications"?
David J. Wyatt, CDT
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Registered: 03-2011
Posted on Friday, October 16, 2015 - 11:15 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post

This is a good question that will probably launch a long thread.

Technically, or officially rather, there is no distinction between Division 01 and the rest as far as technicality is concerned.

"Technical" is one of those convenience modifiers that project participants use when they mean the sections where products are specified. You know, the "real" stuff as opposed to the "boilerplate" stuff we spec writers love to stash in Division 01 to trick people.

"Technical," as with the term "quality," is used so freely that it almost has no commonly-understood meaning anymore.
Ronald L. Geren, FCSI, AIA, CCS, CCCA, SCIP
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Posted on Friday, October 16, 2015 - 11:18 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post

In the Construction Specifications Practice Guide, page 69 at the top, it states "Divisions 01 through 49 are specifications and form the Specifications Group. Divisions 02 through 49 are Technical Specifications."
Ron Geren, FCSI, AIA, CCS, CCCA, SCIP
www.specsandcodes.com
William C. Pegues, FCSI, CCS
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Posted on Friday, October 16, 2015 - 11:28 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post

And, MasterFormat breaks it down as...

Division 1 through (the highest number) as SPECIFICATIONS GROUP

Division 1 then comes up as GENERAL REQUIREMENTS SUBGROUP

Divisions 2 through 14 as FACILITY CONSTRUCTION SUBGROUP

Division 21 through 28 as FACILITY SERVICES SUBGROUP

Divisions 31 through the upper 30's as SITE AND INFRASTRUCTURE SUBGROUP

Other subgroups after that, but I don't do work in those scopes, so not in my handy reference.
William C. Pegues, FCSI, CCS, SCIP Affiliate
WDG Architecture, Washington, DC | Dallas, TX
Konrad Hee
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Username: khee

Post Number: 13
Registered: 04-2006
Posted on Friday, October 16, 2015 - 11:44 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post

Thanks all for the responses. That Practice Guide call out on page 69 is helpful and settles it for me!
Omar Siddiq Dafallah Idris
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Post Number: 5
Registered: 03-2017
Posted on Wednesday, April 12, 2017 - 02:54 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post

Konrad;

could you please share this practice guide.

sorry for digging deep and bringing this thread to surface again.
Louis Medcalf, FCSI, CCS
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Post Number: 74
Registered: 11-2010
Posted on Wednesday, April 12, 2017 - 10:36 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post

As stated cogently by Ron above, all specifications are technical sections. Some practitioners (including me) refer to the specs outside Division 01 as "product sections."
anon (Unregistered Guest)
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Posted on Wednesday, April 12, 2017 - 11:30 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post

Division 01 sections are not technical specifications, according to CSI Practice Guide, as stated above.
Margaret G. Chewning FCSI CCS
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Post Number: 290
Registered: 01-2003
Posted on Wednesday, April 12, 2017 - 02:33 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post

I believe what Omar is looking for is how to obtain the CSI Practice Delivery Guide.
Omar- Go to CSIresources.org and go to the Practice tab on the left, then Publications. There you will find the Practice Guide they are refering to above for purchase.
Omar Siddiq Dafallah Idris
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Post Number: 6
Registered: 03-2017
Posted on Thursday, April 13, 2017 - 01:00 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post

Thanks Margaret; I will do
J. Peter Jordan
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Post Number: 956
Registered: 05-2004
Posted on Thursday, April 13, 2017 - 10:19 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post

The distinction between "specifications" and the "Division 00" stuff is contractually important in the Owner-Architect Agreement. Under the AIA forms of agreement, the Architect is responsible for the preparation of Drawings and Specifications. The Architect is obligated to assist the Owner in the preparation of requirements and forms for procurement and contracting.

Years and years ago, CSI and AIA published a joint manual authored by "Rocky" Rothschild (I believe he was the first "double fellow"). The book was entitled "Construction Bonds and Insurance Guide." Mr. Rothschild argued strongly against the architect taking the lead in preparing requirements for the Owner on bonds and insurance, and by implication against making unilateral changes to contracting forms and requirements. Where the owner is a public entity, I would argue that any documents that the architect prepares should be presented to the owner for review before it is issued.

I have seen people prepare contracting conditions who do not understand the distinction between Division 00 and Division 01 resulting in a number of items being unnecessarily inserted into Division 00 (job site offices, tree and plant protection, details on submittal procedures, etc). The architect should be responsible for these items. Specific requirements for insurance, bonds, payments may be negotiated directly between the owner (and their attorney) and the contractor with minimal input from the architect.
J. Peter Jordan, FCSI, AIA, CCS, LEED AP, SCIP

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