Studio Pipe Grid Specification

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Author Message Jeff Williams RA Senior Member Username: architectjw Post Number: 19 Registered: 10-2013 Posted on Friday, August 28, 2015 - 03:58 pm:    Our office has designed a T.V. Studio for a new tenant space. The project needs a pipe gird system for studio lighting. I was looking at several manufacturers but cannot find any guide spec's. I would like to bid this design build. Does anyone know where I can find a guide spec or could point me in the right direction? Wayne Yancey Senior Member Username: wayne_yancey Post Number: 758 Registered: 01-2008 Posted on Friday, August 28, 2015 - 04:02 pm:    Jeff, E-mail me at wayne.yancey@callison.com. I have some delegated design specs for slotted channel framing for data centers. Change the product material to suit your requirements. Mark Gilligan SE, Senior Member Username: mark_gilligan Post Number: 757 Registered: 10-2007 Posted on Friday, August 28, 2015 - 06:08 pm:    Who is designing the grid for the loads? TV studios may also suspend things other than lights from the grid. ken hercenberg Senior Member Username: khercenberg Post Number: 945 Registered: 12-2006 Posted on Friday, August 28, 2015 - 07:10 pm:    I've never used channel for studio grid. From what I've seen the users like round pipe/tube to connect their lights, speakers, mics, etc. Some of their stuff gets pretty heavy. Best we ever did was establish a layout, grid spacing and pipe/tube sizing with connections to the deck above and determine what kind of loads the assembly had to carry. I included the requirement to determine and design for the load of the assembly as well as the hanging design load in the engineered shop drawings. Are they requesting a catwalk? Richard Gonser AIA CSI CCCA SCIP Senior Member Username: rich_gonser Post Number: 112 Registered: 11-2008 Posted on Friday, August 28, 2015 - 07:12 pm:    Don't forget the curtains on the side. They're essential for sound. How big is the studio? Are they doing scenery? News? Video games? I've done a few in the last few years. Jeffrey Wilson CSI CCS SCIP Senior Member Username: wilsonconsulting Post Number: 179 Registered: 03-2006 Posted on Sunday, August 30, 2015 - 11:08 am:    I have a brief office master Section 116135 "Pipe Grid Systems" intended for light theatrical use that could be adapted. Delegated design requirements are included. I'll send it if you email me: Jeff at WilsonConsultingInc dot com Jeffrey Wilson CCS CSI SCIP Wilson Consulting Inc Ardmore PA Jeff Williams RA Senior Member Username: architectjw Post Number: 20 Registered: 10-2013 Posted on Monday, August 31, 2015 - 05:58 pm:    Richard, the space is 80X25 and it is divided into 4 studios. It is for classes for a local University. We were originally using partitions to separate the space. I was told late Friday that the space was going to be open so curtains will now be a important part as you suggested. Ken you are correct on the pipe. The systems basically use sprinkler pipe and all of the connectors are designed around that. Wayne just sent me some similar sections that I could use as a guide. Jeffrey sent me a Pipe Grid Specification that is very helpful. Thank you all for your help. This is a wonderful site to get help on. Jeff Williams Richard Gonser AIA CSI CCCA SCIP Senior Member Username: rich_gonser Post Number: 113 Registered: 11-2008 Posted on Monday, August 31, 2015 - 07:56 pm:    email me and I'll send you a section with the rack and curtains used for a small TV studio at a local college. It will help get you started. SpecStudio at iCloud dot com John Bunzick, CCS, CCCA, LEED AP Senior Member Username: bunzick Post Number: 1641 Registered: 03-2002 Posted on Saturday, September 05, 2015 - 03:02 pm:    I have done a number of these. Delegated design was generally how it was done, but a few were designed by the engineer of record. With delegated design, you need to tell the bidders what the concentrated and uniform loads of the lighting is, otherwise they can't design it. Of course, the engineer has to design the building structure to hold the weight. All of this was part of the miscellaneous metal specification; no special section was used. (I estimate we did it this way at least a dozen times in my career without issue.) The layout was shown (i.e. pipe every four feet on-center, or whatever it was), and a basic pipe diameter range or size given (as it needs to be compatible with the lighting clamps). John Bunzick, CCS, CCCA, LEED AP Senior Member Username: bunzick Post Number: 1642 Registered: 03-2002 Posted on Saturday, September 05, 2015 - 03:04 pm:    I will note that the curtains, backdrops, greenscreens and other studio- or stage-related equipment was specified elsewhere. The piping used to support stage curtains and the like is generally supplied by the same entity supplying such equipment.