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Lynn Javoroski FCSI CCS LEED® AP SCIP Affiliate Senior Member Username: lynn_javoroski
Post Number: 2019 Registered: 07-2002
| Posted on Thursday, May 28, 2015 - 05:07 pm: | |
We've got a re-roofing project and the entire warehouse / contents need to be protected while the tear-off and new roof work is being done. We have the names of two firms who specialize in this: TuffWrap and CleanWrap, but neither has a spec on their website, and I think there's a good reason for that. They do the work and don't want competition. That being the case, I still want a spec. Right now, I'm leaning toward 01 5636.13 Temporary Protective Enclosure. This work will need to be coordinated with the roofing work (so the right stuff is protected at the right time), will need to include a record of what was before, cleaning up after with removal of the wrap, and will have to use fire resistant materials yet allow the sprinkler system to work. Thoughts? Help? |
Steven Bruneel, AIA, CSI-CDT, LEED-AP, EDAC Senior Member Username: redseca2
Post Number: 478 Registered: 12-2006
| Posted on Thursday, May 28, 2015 - 05:26 pm: | |
I also would include an 01 31 21 - Photographic Documentation section to require a detailed compilation of "before" pictures inside the warehouse. |
Michael Chusid, RA FCSI CCS Senior Member Username: michael_chusid
Post Number: 38 Registered: 10-2003
| Posted on Thursday, May 28, 2015 - 11:03 pm: | |
Does the owner want a bunch of contractors climbing on its merchandise to spread tarps and such? Perhaps the owner should do it with its own forces. Michael Chusid, RA FCSI CCS www.chusid.com www.buildingproduct.guru |
Justatim Senior Member Username: justatim
Post Number: 72 Registered: 04-2010
| Posted on Friday, May 29, 2015 - 07:32 am: | |
It might also be worthwhile to include a statement in the spec to the effect that the merchandise and other contents of the warehouse are currently in like-new condition without defects such as broken parts, water damage and staining, or crushed boxes. I included a similar statement that "the roof currently does not leak" for a project where work was being done over a good but older roof, and added requirements for minimum roofing protection and that any leaks occurring within 3 months of work completion had to be repaired by the contractor. This was in effect a 3-month warranty for the roofing. Well, a small leak became evident right after the work, but there was no dispute because of that provision. |
David J. Wyatt, CDT Senior Member Username: david_j_wyatt_cdt
Post Number: 110 Registered: 03-2011
| Posted on Friday, May 29, 2015 - 08:26 am: | |
I agree with Michael Chusid. The most knowledgeable stakeholder on the matter of warehouse contents would be the owner and it should be handled by the owner by way of a separate contract. But, since you have already been put in the middle of it, I suggest you specify the work result you want in your most erudite Division 01-ish terms and require submittal of qualification statements and references. You should call the references and hear what they have to say. Of course no one lists references to projects that went awry, but you might get a subcontractor that has never screwed up. The problem is we rarely get paid enough to do weird stuff like this and we have to take the blame if something goes wrong. It reminds me of Woody Hayes's thoughts on the forward pass - only three things can result and two of them are bad. |
Tony Wolf, AIA, CCS, LEED-AP Senior Member Username: tony_wolf
Post Number: 71 Registered: 11-2007
| Posted on Friday, May 29, 2015 - 08:45 am: | |
"If you weren’t an optimist, it would be impossible to be an architect." – Norman Foster "If something can go wrong, it will." - Murphy "S__t happens." - Bump R. Sticker |
Lynn Javoroski FCSI CCS LEED® AP SCIP Affiliate Senior Member Username: lynn_javoroski
Post Number: 2020 Registered: 07-2002
| Posted on Friday, May 29, 2015 - 09:18 pm: | |
The work will be done (as I noted first) by firms that specialize in this sort of thing. And, in fact, I did receive a specification from TuffWrap, which is the one mentioned in the communication from the Architect. I'll be able to work with that spec and make it competitive. Now I just need to figure out what Division it belongs in. I'll probably do an expanded Division 01 Temporary Stuff section, and put this one in another Division. Any ideas? Division 2? Division 07? |
J. Peter Jordan Senior Member Username: jpjordan
Post Number: 829 Registered: 05-2004
| Posted on Saturday, May 30, 2015 - 07:35 am: | |
Since this product is a part of the temporary protection required during construction, I would include it in the Division 01section you are developing. My basic rule of thumb is that if the work result is removed before the end of construction, it goes in Division 01. |
Dave Metzger Senior Member Username: davemetzger
Post Number: 581 Registered: 07-2001
| Posted on Saturday, May 30, 2015 - 09:04 am: | |
I’d keep the protection work in Division 01. It is temporary work, and so does not fit well in another division. That said, ultimately how I’d decide on where to specify the work by the temporary protection firm is whether it will be done as a subcontract to the re-roofing work, or as a separate contract with the owner. If as a separate contract, you’re on the right track with using 015600 Temporary Barriers and Enclosures. The work is to protect against falling debris and potential leaks during re-roofing (I assume the existing roof deck will remain in place). I wouldn’t use 015636 Temporary Security Enclosures (as you suggested in your first posting) because the purpose is not security, ie to prevent unauthorized entry, as it is to protect against water/weather/debris. Since there is not a current MF number for the “Temporary Protective Enclosure” title you note, I’d make up a new Level 3 number, eg 015637 or whatever. On the other hand, if the temporary protection will be a subcontract to the roofer, I’d put it in Division 07, something like 070150.10 Temporary Protective Enclosure During Re-roofing. Yes it’s still temporary work, but putting it in Division 07 would make it less likely to be overlooked by the roofer. |
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